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#1 2008-03-17 21:31:12

poetnessa
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Suddenly no one understands ASD, once "child" is adult

We are really struggling to find services and appropriate ones at that, now that my son is 22 years old. He declined when he was 19 years old, after several emotional traumas (his half-sister acted out her own drama about her parents divorce upon Chris, literally UPON Chris, keeping him up most of the night and badgering him to give up on their dad (his only support there, his beloved dad), while Chris and Lila were in Texas visiting their dad for the summer, back in 2004. In addition to that, my father (C's grandfather) was declining quickly with Alzheimer's. C was very close to his grandpa. He started receiving SSI and didn't accept that he really had a disability. I started getting very sick with what has now been diagnosed as celiac sprue. It was all just too much for him. I think the ground beneath his feet had just shifted too much.

The school failed to call in an autism consultant and instead demanded that Chris be hospitalized. The next 3-4 psychiatrists all "assumed" that his age of 19 meant his "voices" were evidence of a schizophrenic break and started him on various combinations of anti-psychotic medicines. None of these have made any difference in "the voices." Consistently, I have been advocating that the "voices" are really his own issues (it doesn't make sense to him that the govt. would just send him a check, with no strings attached -- he has thought he would be expected to go to Iraq (I keep telling him that I'd never let him go to Iraq) or have to pay it back sometime. He really wants to get a job so that he can get off SSI (and therefore not be disabled?). He has some faulty logic going on, but it's pretty understandable logic streams, at that. He's always been a pretty logical guy, really a whiz at logic games such as chess, stratego, risk.

The good things right now. The current psychiatrist is older and has been listening to my assertions for the behaviors as being "autism behaviors." Finally. I believe at C's next appointment, he will start decreasing the anti-psychotics and start looking at anxiety medication instead. Chris does music therapy weekly and the music therapist is doing very well with him. Chris enjoys it and actively engages. I try to incorporate music at home as much as possible, too, even sometimes creating rap-type-songs for various communication around the house.

He doesn't talk as much as he used to. He used to be quite verbal, humorous, laughing, and fun-loving. Now he is very worried, anxious, and laughs only with a worried kind of paranoia at something going on in his own head.

After "losing" my dad to alzheimer's, this has been heart-breaking for me. It's like I have "lost" my son. I keep trying to find him, and there's off and on little breaththroughs, something like a little breeze bearing lilac scent for a moment.

The school has been nearly completely ignorant about autism behaviors and how to help him. Where they have programs in place for early childhood and elementary students, they have nothing appropriate for transition-age students. Here in Michigan, special education students can continue with public education until they turn 26. That's great, except that so far, the school programming has been junk for Chris.

I'd love to hear some ideas for how we might better help Chris. It's hard to find a therapist to work with him, as he's not a sit and talk kind of guy. It's hard to get people who are used to working with young kids being able to age-up their approach. The school program is starting a SCERTS program, but I have my doubts that they will be able to make it age-appropriate.

I'm really missing my son!! He's such a great guy and honestly, through these past difficult 3-1/2 years, he's been pretty doggone patient with all of us.

thanks,
Nessa

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#2 2008-03-19 07:01:05

shannonj
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Re: Suddenly no one understands ASD, once "child" is adult

Hi Nessa-
It sounds like your family has really been through the ringer!  I can imagine that all the family challenges and health issues would be hard on anyone, but especially a kid on the spectrum.  My 13 year old son is very anxious as well---and becomes very irrational when his anxiety is high.  I hope your psychiatrist can find a med to address the anxiety.

Have you considered that your son may have gut issues  that contribute to his anxiety?  Reading that you have celiac makes me curious, and makes him more susceptible to gut issues as well.  And the gut-brain connection is well established.  Something to check into....


Keep us posted.

Shannon

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#3 2008-03-24 10:03:44

ozmom
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Re: Suddenly no one understands ASD, once "child" is adult

Hi! My son is 23 and his psychiatrist thinks he is psychotic sometimes, too. They don't really understand the faulty logic, the search for reasons for everything, and other thoughts that seem like psychosis. We finally took him off most of his meds and put him on supplements (Larginine for his OCD and Ltryptophan for anxiety) and no sign of any psychosis... His anxiety is the worst problem like with yours. Prozac did help for a long time but doesn't anymore. He still takes risperdal. You might try making a social story about adult life and what to expect (like no Iraq) to calm his fears a little. Even if he can't read you can read it to him and somehow having it written down makes them feel more in control and less anxious. I am going to put our own social story on adulthood on my website  www.ozmofun.com  for free soon but soon may mean a month from now...!

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#4 2008-03-25 09:42:29

AIsForAutism
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Re: Suddenly no one understands ASD, once "child" is adult

Hi! Wow, you are really having a tough time! I don't know if this resource will help or not, but Easter Seals has partnered up with ASA recently and they seem to be concentrating on individuals who are adults. You might see if they have any services that can help you http://www.easterseals.com/site/PageSer … vice_adult  Good luck!

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#5 2008-06-04 08:22:30

poetnessa
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Re: Suddenly no one understands ASD, once "child" is adult

Thanks to all who wrote! I haven't been back for quite some time -- sorry about that. Life is just so busy. And yes, I have been really trying to get cooperation from others serving food to Chris in order to keep him on a gf/cf diet. I think it's really helping and have even gotten the psychiatrist working with me on this. Hopefully I can get him to write a prescription for the diet so that the school will be more likely to keep to it. He tends to get gluten or dairy at school functions (they often go out doing community connections, which in their rotten program tends to be restaurants instead of activities or job possibilities). But since I have been consistent with it at home for the past 6 months, I think it's starting to make a difference. Thanks Shannon, for your vote of confidence about that, too.

Now I think that I will try the other ideas ozmom and AIsForAutism suggested. I'll try to get back here again to report how it goes. Thanks so much! Ideas and support like this really makes a world of difference to me!!

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#6 2008-07-22 12:21:00

SuperMom
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Re: Suddenly no one understands ASD, once "child" is adult

Sorry this is a bit late but I just joined and am reading through forum topics.

Kudos to you poetnessa for all that you do to advocate for your son! My son Jesse too once battled the voices in his head. I will never forget in one of our talks about how he said he had "visions" of a guy on a motorcycle. Nothing unusual there. The really freaky part is that the person in his head kept saying, "Everybodys got to be moving on." I relate that to a lot of happenings that occur in his life as he struggles to make sense of the senses. We've all screamed at some point when it seemed nobody was listening. In the same breath though we have erased a lot of doubt that just seemed to be written in indelible ink. Sounds like your son is in "thought processing overload." From what you said it seems that he really had a lot of information input that isn't quite finding it's way to the sorting bin. He deals with the confusion by welcoming the silence and indifference. Give him a chance to sort through the thoughts that are running rampant through his mind and give them some kind of meaning.  Hang in there, hun....you sound like you are doing everything you could possibly do to help him.

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#7 2008-07-22 20:33:51

LisaAutismAdvocate
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Re: Suddenly no one understands ASD, once "child" is adult

I dont really have much more to add, that hasnt been said...accept I wish you well and hope that you can find the help that you and your son needs.

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#8 Today 02:05:06

Pepperpots
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Re: Suddenly no one understands ASD, once "child" is adult

Not trying to hijack this thread at all, but there is a high correlation between celiac (and general gluten intolerance) and autism, and even gluten intolerance and psychologically troubling behavior (http://www.gluten-free.org/reichelt.html)

IF you've alreay been diagnoses with actual celiac, I'll bet your son would react to removal of gluten in the diet.

try: www.danasview.net
www.celiac.com

I feel for you.  That's a lot to go through.  Just the diet changes alone are hard, let alone the other issues. Hang in there.
My whole family is gluten free by the way --- we tested our non-autism kids and found that they are very sensitive to gluten as well.
Email me if you have questions.

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