FoggyRock General Forum

You are not logged in.

#1 2008-05-12 20:28:09

Sherry
Member
Posts: 37

Live-In Gramma

Just thought I'd get things rolling in this forum. I was divorced 6 years ago and my daughter was divorced 4 years ago. We bought a home together and I'm helping to raise my grandchildren. The oldest, Katlin who is 10 now, has a tentative diagnosis of ADHD, but there is no question in my mind that is the proper diagnosis for her. The younger, Nove'Mber who is 6 now, has a diagnosis of PDD-NOS Autism.

Some days the little one seems nearly normal, very articulate and connected with the world, and some days she is so disconnected that my heart breaks watching and listening to her. Or it can change from hour to hour. She didn't have school on Friday last week so we took her to the park to play, and then ate lunch at our favorite Italian cafe, and then went shopping at a couple of stores. She started out the day talking and making jokes (that actually made sense), and by the time we ate lunch we could see her changing.

We were ready to head home, but she didn't want to stop so we went to one more store. By the time we were in the car she was in her own world, not responding to us and talking baby talk to herself.

If she were on the far end of the spectrum all of the time we would adjust and try to make her life and our lives the best we can, but it's heartbreaking to see her on that rollercoaster between nearly normal and and very low-functioning. I know she is going to need help her whole life, and since I'm the gramma, I know I won't be around for most of her life. All I can do is help any way I can for as long as I'm here. And just love both of the girls with all my heart.

Offline

 

#2 2008-05-13 11:37:37

Jake9068
Member
Posts: 78

Re: Live-In Gramma

My mother and I own a home together and she helps with my children.  Have you noticed any triggers for the change in your granddaughter?  You might want to keep a journal to see if any pattern emerges.  I know my sons connectivness changes after eating certain foods.  When he was younger certain places triggered a change.  For example I can't take to get bllod drawn at children's hospital.  THe waiting room is a bright blue and sets him off every time.  It isn't having blood drawn that is the problem because he has had blood drawn in several other locations without a hitch.  He likes to tell them the correct way to draw blood.

Offline

 

#3 2008-05-13 19:57:42

Sherry
Member
Posts: 37

Re: Live-In Gramma

That's interesting. How did you figure out that it was the blue room that was causing your son's problems?

Here we have an ADHD gramma, an ADD mom, and an Autistic kiddo so it can be very hard to make any sense of each other even when we're communicating well, which doesn't often happen for all of us at the same time.

I'm thinking back to that day at the park, and eating out, and then shopping... mom and gramma both ordered pasta dishes, hers had shrimp and mine just had cheese, and we each shared a little onto another plate for the little one. Hard to tell whether it could have been gluten or casein or fish...

Or whether she just gets tired, it seems like she has more days at school where things are difficult in the afternoon than in the morning. We had been attributing that to the class being much larger, and noisier?, in the afternoon.

This could take a detective like Mr. Monk to figure out.

Offline

 

#4 2008-05-13 20:21:06

Jake9068
Member
Posts: 78

Re: Live-In Gramma

I fifnally figured out it was the waiting room because we started bypassing that particular room and all the issues went away.  I don't know that it the color or the brightness of the color and room in general.  I think it is suppose be cheerful for kids rather than appearing medical.  It is just over stimulating in our case.

It may just be the combination but that gluten sure can drug up some kids.  Michael reacts to all fish gluten and especially casein.  Italian restaurants aren't on our list when Michael is along. 

Our house has its communication issues but I have attributed some of it to hormones! Three females al;l at different hormonal stages (lol).  My daughter is NT but is 18.  I don't think any teen is exactly NT.

Offline

 

#5 2008-05-13 22:37:16

Sherry
Member
Posts: 37

Re: Live-In Gramma

Our pediatrician tested for gluten intolerance twice and said her numbers were fine. But I've read that some people are simply more sensitive to diet (and other things) and what looks "fine" on test results for most people may still be a problem for them. Trouble is, we can't get the school to go along with a gluten-free diet without a note from the pediatrician.

Offline

 

#6 2008-05-14 10:27:55

Jake9068
Member
Posts: 78

Re: Live-In Gramma

Michael's school doesn't provide food but they are supportive of the GFCF diet when chosen by the parents.  Have you seen a DAN doctor? There are so many different test.  What may seem fine on one test may be reactive on another.  We have done 3 or 4 allergy panels.  The last one was through Sage Labs.  It is expensive but our insurance covered it.

Offline

 

#7 2008-05-14 19:48:00

Sherry
Member
Posts: 37

Re: Live-In Gramma

We don't have any insurance. The girls are covered by our state insurance program.

When we had the little one on a gluten-free diet for a couple of months (except for lunch at school) we didn't see any changes. But as soon as we eliminated all fruit (her daddy has allergies to some fruits) she showed improvement in a couple of areas we were concerned with. A coincidence and she was ready to reach those milestones anyway? Who can say for sure?

We eliminated all fruit for almost a month and then introduced apples and bananas. Everything was fine. We introduced a couple of other things, and then she begged her mom for orange juice one day while shopping and BAM, those issues were back again. She talked her mom in to buying strawberries last week and the issues returned, but then the whole family has been having some kind of intestinal thing, so again it's hard to know whether the fruit or the virus was responsible... maybe both of them.

What is a DAN doctor?

Offline

 

#8 2008-05-15 04:01:59

Jake9068
Member
Posts: 78

Re: Live-In Gramma

A DAN doctor is a health provider who has attended the Defeat Autism Now training/conferences and believes ASD kids can be help biomedically.  Most of them don't take insurance, some are very expensive and some aren't.  http://www.autism.com/   or  http://www.autism.com/dan/danusdis.htm  We go to a DAN and then the regular pediatrician reorders the labs that are covered by the state insurance (Michael has private ins and state).  Our regular pediatrician is "autism friendly"  A lot of kids have yeast issues that are aggravated by fruit.

Offline

 

#9 2008-05-15 05:23:46

Sherry
Member
Posts: 37

Re: Live-In Gramma

Sounds awesome, hopefully more doctors and alternative providers will get on board with this. As I feared, there isn't anyone offering this treatment closer than a 3 hour drive from us. For now, that's just not feasible.

Anyway, thank for the link, looks like some interesting reading.

Offline

 

#10 2008-05-15 08:06:10

shannonj
Member
Posts: 238

Re: Live-In Gramma

Wonderful dialogue here, ladies.... Sherry, I agree that a DAN doc should be your next step.  If your daughter can have such moments of clarity, then the times when she is not available are pointing to something biomedical, I would think.  Seizures might be something to look into as well--which can be triggered by stress, or lights or food etc.....Sounds like she is shutting down for a reason and a good doctor can help you figure it out....It will never get easier to start her on some sort of diet (there are many to try: GF/CF, SCD, BED, etc...) than now.  It's tough when they get older.  And you can get dietary restrictions built into IEP so school will have to comply.

Offline

 

#11 2008-06-03 18:00:24

Sherry
Member
Posts: 37

Re: Live-In Gramma

I would love to be able to take our little one to a DAN doctor to see if anything along those lines would be helpful. However the nearest clinician is at least a 2 hour drive away, and since it seems most don't take insurance I have no idea how we would pay for it. Is there some way to work this out that I'm not seeing?

Offline

 

#12 2008-06-05 01:04:11

jalyce
Member
Posts: 27

Re: Live-In Gramma

Call the office, they may have some alternative for you.  There are lot's of therapy options for children on state insurance, thats what my son has.  Sometimes it takes a little longer than reg ins. but usually they are pretty good about that stuff.

Offline

 

#13 2008-06-05 06:39:45

Jake9068
Member
Posts: 78

Re: Live-In Gramma

There are some non-profits that provide grants to help with biomed.  I don't know specifics off the top of my head.  I have read about some offices having a sliding scale type of arrangement.  Several
DAN's have outreach clinics in specific areas 3-4 times a year.

Offline

 

#14 2008-06-05 21:21:46

Sherry
Member
Posts: 37

Re: Live-In Gramma

Thanks for the suggestions about checking on outreach clinics, and about checking with the folks who oversee the state health care for children. Definately worth looking into.

Offline

 

Board footer

Powered by PunBB

Our Supporters