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#1 2008-04-14 08:52:20

lisadianne2
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dealing with their brother's abuse

This is probably the very hardest part for myself and my husband, Brian.  Our son, who is 9 and getting kind of husky, takes out a lot of anger and frustration on his 6 year old sister.  He is fast, his moods change quickly, and we're not always sure what will set him off.  Our 6 year old seems to annoy him the most and he is both verbally and physically abusive of her.  We act as fast as we can to intervene but it is still scary and sad.  It's especially sad because our 6 year old, Collette, adores her brother and tries desperately to be a large part of his life.  Our other daughter, who is 3, is more of a stimulation/obsessive toy for our son.  She has a very difficult time understanding why he constantly invades her personal space (to hold and rub her head) and why he shows no interest in her anger/frustration.  We talk openly about autism with them all so they can gradually (hopefully) understand.  Our son loves his sisters but it is a constant struggle to keep everyone safe (nevermind being happy, at peace, or content!)  Out of all the goals he has with the different service programs he is a part of, this is the one area that I would focus on almost exclusively.  We have finally decided to try medications (Prozac and Resperdol) and this has been a TOUGH decision for us...lisadianne2

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#2 2008-04-14 23:06:51

slhh130
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Re: dealing with their brother's abuse

My son gives my daughter abuse too. He has thrown her down the stairs and hit her on the head with a wiffle ball bat. My son is finally doing well on abilify and wellbutrin. It has been over a year to get them right. So it takes while sometimes. It was the hardest thing. You made it awhile. My son started at 3 almost 4 years. My daughter loves her brother dearly as well. He loves her too but he just gets in a mood and does something without thinking about it. He is sorry after. But revenge will happen. She is starting some behaviors of her own . Paybacks are coming I think. Keep your head up and write if you need to.

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#3 2008-04-15 07:24:19

shannonj
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Re: dealing with their brother's abuse

We have gone through this as well.  My son is a year and half older, and has always been a lot bigger than my daughter.  He is very compulsive and went through a stage where he would strike out physically at his sister before he thought it through. He would usually feel bad afterwards, but the damage was already done.  I just hated to see my daughter targeted because he did the same to me and I knew how it felt.  So, we decided that we had to make sure that Haley always had an escape route in case her brother's moods changed.  My husband built her a little log cabin in the back yard, with a lock, so she had somewhere to run if he was bothering her outside.  In the house, we put a lock on her bedroom door and one on the basement door so she could escape on either floor.  We traded our wagon in for a used SUV with a third seat in the very back so she wouldn't have to sit beside him in the car.  That was about 4 years ago, and for the most part, thank goodness, he leaves her completely alone now......

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#4 2008-04-16 08:55:29

lisadianne
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Re: dealing with their brother's abuse

Hello, again.  Thank you for your comments about your daughters dealing with their brothers' abuse.  I can't believe how "relieved" I felt (not happy for your pain but...) to just know that we're not the only ones who are trying to handle this.  The idea of a safe place is something we're definitely going to start with Collette.  Until this point, we have always separated her from Benjamin when he gets abusive but it makes a lot of sense to help her understand that she also has the power to get away and protect herself.  I know that I can get crazy trying to be on guard every single second that he's home.  Isn't it all heartbreaking?  Well...thanks and take care-lisadianne

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#5 2008-04-16 20:24:37

slhh130
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Yep. I am wondering what will happen at an ER someday when she does get hurt enough to go. They already suspect the parents of child abuse anyway. Kelsey is small still so she can't escape. I need to intervene. He is starting to show some restraint.

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#6 2008-05-13 04:58:30

Sherry
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Re: dealing with their brother's abuse

Because our austitic child is the younger sibling, we may have been putting unfair blame on her big sister for provoking her attacks. We have been struggling for about 2 years to help her deal with frustration without taking it out physically. Just recently she attacked one of the aides in the special ed room (she has special ed in the morning and kindergarten in the afternoon) and received a one-day suspension from school.

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#7 2008-06-15 10:22:50

lisadianne
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Hi...I just read your post...your child was suspended?  How on earth did the school think that would actually help?  Also, is she protected from that sort of disciplinary action by her SPED IEP?  I don't mean to sound like a preaching jerk but similar situations at my son's school have convinced us to home school him.  We just found that the ways that they would "discipline" him when his behavior became aggressive (because of his disability) were actually just punishment that did not teach him anything about handling his frustrations more appropriately and instead increased his aggressive behaviors!  Also, we were concerned about him hurting another child!  He would not have been able to handle that and we were also worried about how his schoolmates and their parents would feel and how they would react.  Argh!

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#8 2008-09-26 03:53:05

cinni
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Re: dealing with their brother's abuse

I am in the same boat. My son LOVED his new baby sister, up until she started to walk and get into his stuff. That is where it all went downhill for us. I wouldn't really say abusive as i would agressive towards her. She is almost 4 now and he is nearing 10. Big gap, but it still happens. She still doesn't understand why her brother is mean to her. She has adapted and now goes after him. They bug eachother. They hit eachother. They get on eachother's nerves on purpose by making the other mad. It's very stressful. And only the outside world (and even some family members) think we are just bad parents or just let them get away with anything because of the way they act. He was just diagnosed in May with Asperger's through the school and are just now going through the medical drs to see if he qualifies for therapies. I haven't seen any improvements just yet. We are working on social stories about his sister.  I don't just yet know what to do about her though. She goes to the ped next month. I will probably mention it there.

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#9 2008-09-26 17:52:53

striving
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Re: dealing with their brother's abuse

The way I identify about these posts is to say I'm not in ya's situation but I do feel greatly for you all. I have a sister who will set me straight in a heartbeat. I have memories of her pushing me down a flight of stairs, locking me out of the house and slamming a door on my wrist. And, she isn't on the spectrum. I just think she was born with a inbreed very strong personality that didn't get the right kind of guidance. Generally personalities such as this have great potential for leadership qualities to exist. It must be really frustrating to have leadership qualities and be autistic, I can only imagine the frustration of that. I love the cabin the backyard idea, what a mom!!!  I wish I would have had a cabin. Laurie "Striving"

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#10 2008-09-26 19:05:24

Sherry
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Re: dealing with their brother's abuse

The "right kind of guidance" can be difficult for neurotypical parents, but given that in many cases there is a genetic link, guidance is often very lacking. I wish we were better at providing such guidance ourselves.

To update our situation, the school decided my granddaughter wasn't really autistic and they mainstreamed her into first grade with very little help, and in no time she was severly frustrated and lashing out. She hit out at another student who pushed ahead of her in the lunch line, and she hit out at her teacher once, then a few days later she threw her shoe and hit the teacher in the face!

When the principle tried to explain what was wrong about such behavior, she finally "got it" that our little one just doesn't understand, doesn't relate, and has very poor self-regulation. They quickly amended her IEP, giving her more time in the Resource Room (special ed) where she can work without so much distraction, and gave her an aide for a part of the day to help with her most difficult subjects.

It took me a long time to even consider using meds to help her get a handle on dealing with her frustrations, and our therapist is just as resistant to throwing meds at children. But he has come to realize how often she lashes out at her sister and her mother, and as she gets bigger the chance of doing some damage just increases. He is going to do some research on this and we will talk about it some more.

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#11 2008-09-28 23:05:28

Mom4Autism
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Re: dealing with their brother's abuse

What a perfect topic.  I have a 12 yr old son (Evan) who has been through the ringer with Raymond (15).  Evan has even said, "I hate his autism!"  Raymond would often target Evan, even though it was not in anger, he'd throw him around and pounce on him.  I have video of Evan cowering when Raymond walked by him, it was so heartbreaking to watch this.  I would reprimand Raymond and set consequences, they were very harsh.  He didn't understand what I was saying, but he understood the punishment and did not like it.  So it didn't take long for him to make the connection.  He understood.  He would still want to stim by putting his fingers through his brother's hair constantly, but he wasn't hitting him any more.  He would say, "Nice Raymond," and I would say ok.  Evan is a very mellow very loving son.  They get along now; although their disagreements are verbal and atypical.  When our daughter was born (Sheridan) Raymond was 4.  He couldn't do enough for her.  He even sang the Barney song to her in the hospital.  I cried .. he hadn't started talking yet and he sang this song from beginning to end.  Sheridan now gets on his nerves but he is still protective of her as is Evan.  I don't know why he was so good with Sheridan and so tough with Evan.  I believe God gave us Evan to help with Raymond.  Raymond used to call me Michelle until Evan started calling me Mommy.  Raymond started mimicking his brother in all areas, Evan taught him a lot.

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