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#1 2008-07-29 21:48:21

shannonj
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Pathological Demand Avoidance: an unrecognized part of the spectrum

I just came upon this diagnosis, this segment of the autism spectrum this week and am wondering if anyone else besides me recognizes their child here....The interesting and important thing about this diagnosis is that the educational/behavioral model for treatment is very different from the typical program/treatment for a child diagnosed with autism.  An ABA program, for example, would be a complete failure and even cause the child's behaviors and anxieties to increase......Which, in my son's case, explains a lot.
There is a survey you can fill out to find out if your child might need a re-assessment from a medical professional:
http://www.tigersurvey.com/survey.php?survey=6668


PDA CHILDREN        
1. Passive Early History in first year
Often doesn’t reach, drops toys, ‘just watches’; often delayed milestones. As more is expected of him/her, child becomes ‘actively passive’, ie strongly objects to normal demands, resists. A few actively resist from the start, everything is on own terms. Parents tend to adapt so completely that they are unprepared for the extent of failure once child is subjected to ordinary group demands of nursery or school; they realise child needs ‘velvet gloves’ but don’t perceive as abnormal. Professionals too see child as puzzling but normal at first.        

2. Continues to resist and avoid ordinary demands of life
Seems to feel under intolerable pressure from normal expectations of young children; devotes self to actively avoiding these. Demand avoidance may seem the greatest social and cognitive skill, and most obsessional preoccupation. As language develops, strategies of avoidance are essentially socially manipulative, often adapted to adult involved; they may include:

    * Distracting adult: ‘Look out of the window!’, ‘I’ve got you a flower!’, ‘I love your necklace!’, ‘I’m going to be sick’, ‘Bollocks! - I said bollocks!’
    * Acknowledging demand but excusing self: ‘I’m sorry, but I can’t’, ‘I’m afraid I’ve got to do this first’, ‘I’d rather do this’, ‘I don’t have to, you can’t make me’, ‘you do it, and I’ll .......’, ‘Mummy wouldn’t like me to’.
    * Physically incapacitating self: hides under table, curls up in corner, goes limp, dissolves in tears, drops everything, seems unable to look in direction of task (though retains eye contact), removes clothes or glasses, ‘I’m too hot’, ‘I’m too tired’, ‘It’s too late now’, ‘I’m handicapped’, ‘I’m going blind/deaf/spastic’, ‘my hands have gone flat’.
    * Withdrawing into fantasy, doll play, animal play: talks only to doll or to inanimate objects; appeals to doll, ‘My girls won’t let me do that’, ‘My teddy doesn’t like this game’; ‘But I’m a tractor, tractors don’t have hands’; growls, bites.
    * Reducing meaningful conversation: bombards adult with speech (or other noises, eg humming) to drown out demands; mimics purposefully; refuses to speak.
    * (As last resort) Outbursts, screaming, hitting, kicking; best construed as panic attack.

3. Surface sociability, but apparent lack of sense of social identity, pride or shame
At first sight normally sociable (has enough empathy to manipulate adults as shown in 2); but ambiguous (see 4) and without depth. No negotiation with other children, doesn’t identify with children as a category: the question ‘Does she know she’s a child?’ makes sense to parents, who recognise this as a major problem. Wants other children to admire, but usually shocks them by complete lack of boundaries. No sense of responsibility, not concerned with what is ‘fitting to her age’ (might pick fight with toddler). Despite social awareness, behaviour is uninhibited, eg unprovoked aggression, extreme giggling/inappropriate laughter or kicking/screaming in shop or classroom. Prefers adults but doesn’t recognise their status. Seems very naughty, but parents say ‘not naughty but confused’ and ‘it’s not that she can’t or won’t, but she can’t help won’t’ - parents at a loss, as are others. Praise, reward, reproof and punishment ineffective; behavioural approaches fail.        

4. Lability of Mood, impulsive, led by need to control.  Switches from cuddling to thumping for no obvious reason; or both at once (‘I hate you’ while hugging, nipping while handholding). Very impetuous, has to follow impulse. Switching of mood may be response to perceived pressure; goes ‘over the top’ in protest or in fear reaction, or even in affection; emotions may seem like an ‘act’. Activity must be on child’s terms; can change mind in an instant if suspects someone else is exerting control. May apologise but re-offend at once, or totally deny the obvious. Teachers need great variety of strategies, not rule-based: novelty helps.        

5. Comfortable in role play and pretending
Some appear to lose touch with reality. May take over second-hand roles as a convenient ‘way of being’, ie coping strategy. Many behave to other children like the teacher (thus seem bossy); may mimic and extend styles to suit mood, or to control events or people. Parents often confused about ‘who he really is’. May take charge of assessment in role of psychologist, or using puppets, which helps co-operation; may adopt style of baby, or of video character. Role play of ‘good person’ may help in school, but may divert attention from underachievement. Enjoys dolls/toy animals/domestic play. Copes with normal conventions of shared pretending. Indirect instruction helps.        

6. Language delay, seems result of passivity
Good degree of catch-up, often sudden. Pragmatics not deeply disordered, good eye-contact (sometimes over-strong); social timing fair except when interrupted by avoidance; facial expression usually normal or over-vivacious. However, speech content usually odd or bizarre, even discounting demand-avoidant speech. Social mimicry more common than video mimicry; brief echoing in some. Repetitive questions used for distraction, but may signal panic.        

7. Obsessive behaviour
Much or most of the behaviour described is carried out in an obsessive way, especially demand avoidance: as a result, most children show very low level achievement in school because motivation to avoid demands is so sustained, and because the child knows no boundaries to avoidance. Other obsessions tend to be social, ie to do with people and their characteristics; some obsessionally blame or harass people they don’t like, or are overpowering in their liking for certain people; children may target other individual children.        

8. Neurological Involvement
Soft neurological signs are seen in the form of clumsiness and physical awkwardness; crawling late or absent in more than half. Some have absences, fits or episodic dyscontrol. Not enough hard evidence as yet.

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#2 2008-07-29 23:01:30

frogfoot1969
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Posts: 132

Re: Pathological Demand Avoidance: an unrecognized part of the spectrum

Thanks for sharing. I think it describes my son very well. I took the quiz and it said he had a very high chance of having this syndrome. I will do more research and talk to his doc about it. Thanks again.

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#3 2008-08-03 00:11:09

CarolRB
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Re: Pathological Demand Avoidance: an unrecognized part of the spectrum

Shannon, I am so incredibly new to finding my way around your site , that I am shocked and pleased to have found PDS.now,This "admendment" to the diagnostic criteria has been just beyond my vision. I looked for some of the ideas when my son was newborn and I was finishing a Masters in clinical psychology. I had heard or read about Demand Avoidance but never had a chance to learn enough to consider as suscintly as it has been presented here. Much less do an unofficial surveyon my 10 yr. old son. He fits this toowell for my aba nonconfromtational  parenting style. No wonder i am so beat up.( kis well as further research, I am wondreing where this unreconnized part comes from. I mean this in "who defined this behavior" ,what and how is it used in behavior theraapy and other
treatments ?  And how persistant can it be? Sharing  the survey results and definition of behavior as pathological could and would be very disturbing to certain individuals in my our different world people. In my world my son's grandmother and his father would see the demand avoidance as unreasonable and play the blame game. I have studied  case manager team behavior and come across habilitators , autismspecialists, aids for special needs in the schools and teachers  who work with many different special needs children Unfortunately in my private life and the schools with Federal and state rules, laws, and fundings under Autismspectrum definitions lable tend to disregard those diagnosed Asperger's syndrome children whoses placement  and education focuses almost soley on behavior issues. The  behaviors then may be addressed  through categories of juvenile delequency,  lack of discipline  the home, an undiagnosed pre-morbid mental or psychoplogical problem, fear as a welluiplinendiscd, the possibily of varied types of abuse by an adult son's life , spoiled, ( as well as , specific family members that say my single parenting skills are the problem, they do not believe in Asperger's syndrome as a disorder but more as a phase as something has and will continue togrow out of.The stimming , crawling under the table, throwing and kicking , andthankfullyhead banging against block walls  have been extinguished for now but this article now bothers me as a mom. The behaviors decribed here hopefully  aren't too embedded into his system and approach to ward stressors. Time to meditate, now I have another resource; Thanks again.I hope this reply is acceptable?

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#4 2008-11-03 05:09:50

KathyE
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Re: Pathological Demand Avoidance: an unrecognized part of the spectrum

Nope, I filled out the whole survey and my grandson came out at 15. Not his pattern. He doesn't like to do things on demand, likes control, but it's a different syndrome with high-functioning autism.

Peace, Kathy E.

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